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In-depth discussion of people's journeys to tap into their full potential and find ways to be the truest version of themselves.
The Real You
EP 24: Transformative Wellness with Robyn Engelson, featuring her new book, Exhausted to Energized
Robyn Engelson's journey from the high-paced marketing world to becoming a wellness coach is inspiring.
Her transformative story includes overcoming severe health challenges and reshaping her life through nutrition, exercise, and mindset.
As my guest on this episode of the Real You Podcast, Robyn shares her path to regaining control over her health and how this led her to empower others, particularly corporate executives and entrepreneurs, with personalized wellness strategies.
A significant part of Robyn's journey involves healing from childhood trauma, a process she embarked on with the help of a life coach. By confronting past experiences and understanding triggers, she learned to reframe her narrative, which drastically improved her personal and professional interactions.
Robyn emphasizes the importance of authenticity and self-improvement, shedding light on the liberating power of being true to oneself and the value of meaningful connections.
As Robyn gears up for the release of her book, "Exhausted to Energized: 90 Days to Your Best Self," she gives us a peek into her systematic approach to overcoming chronic exhaustion.
Throughout this episode, we explore her unique coaching program, which focuses on nutrition, fitness, mindset, and accountability.
Whether you're looking to boost productivity or find your authentic self, Robyn's insights offer a roadmap to a more empowered and fulfilling life.
Contact Robyn here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynengelson/
https://robynengelson.com/
David's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-young-mba-indy/
David's Website: https://davidjyoung.me/
Welcome to the Real you Podcast. I'm your host, David Young, and this is episode number 24. This podcast discusses tapping into your full potential and finding ways to be the truest version of yourself. Today, I'm joined by Robin Engelson, a coach, wellness enthusiast and fellow lover of the sun, water and dogs, and we will discuss her journey, how she got in to and why she loves coaching. She also has a podcast and the lessons she's learned along the way. So, Robin, I really appreciate your time. Thanks for carving out time for me today.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Thank you for having me, David. I'm excited to dive in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. So we just recently got hooked up on LinkedIn I think in the last month or two and we had a quick conversation a couple weeks ago and so, yeah, so you're going to come on my show, I'm going to come on yours, and it'll be a great kind of exchange of backgrounds and ideas. So, yeah, really looking forward to it. So let's get started. I know you do kind of health and wellness coaching for corporate leaders, but if you kind of go back, what did you do after college? What did you think you wanted to do in terms of work, and then kind of, how did that lead you into eventually?
Speaker 2:Absolutely Such a great question. I mean, yes, we did just meet a few months ago, so this is great to be able to help each other and collaborate and share with our audiences. So thank you for that. Yeah, so I always wanted to be in marketing and advertising and also helping people right. So I have a business degree in marketing with a minor in sociology, so combining the both of them.
Speaker 2:When I graduated college, I went straight to an ad agency because I was taught through my mentors and through my internships that you got to do the agency side first and then you go outside the agency to do marketing at a firm and or advertising, because then you have the understanding of what happens in that field and what people are going through. So I did that and it didn't work out. It's not exactly what I thought it was going to be. As some people may know, advertising is cutthroat. It's a certain type of person and I love advertising and I love sales. But being in an ad agency wasn't for me.
Speaker 2:So when I took those lessons right, because we always learn the lessons, it's always the lessons that we take to move forward in our lives. So I took that and I went on the marketing side and I absolutely loved it and I was able to help people because I went to the nonprofit side and doing marketing and sales and advertising and I found that combining all of that really helped me be the best version of myself because I was helping people, mission-based and from my heart I always say it's my heart work and then I was doing marketing and advertising and it was just so much fun. And then I realized that working for somebody else is never going to get me where I want to be right, because I'm never going to be able to elevate to the levels that I'm capable of. So I did that for a short stint maybe about five years Got great experience, had great mentors and I went off on my own at 27. And I've been an entrepreneur for 20 years.
Speaker 2:So now you can all guess my age. But with all of that comes a lot of experience, a lot of trial and error. I had my own ad agency and marketing consulting business that I absolutely loved serving nonprofits, and it really was a way for me again to serve my mission with my heart, work but really help bring the bottom line up for people so if they weren't doing well or they didn't understand it, just really helping them collaboratively as a team. Even though I was a consultant, I was part of their team and helping with their bottom line and that was really important to me because I was helping people within their nonprofit and also helping the people that I work with and helping myself right, because we all, we want to be the best version of ourselves.
Speaker 2:And then after that, after you know a couple of years in whatnot, and then something happened for me which was life changing not life threatening, thank goodness, but I got diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called Hashimoto's, which is a thyroid autoimmune disease, and after I got diagnosed I got sicker and sicker and sicker, right. So I got diagnosed after I had my first child, which is very common for women in their 30s, and I got sicker and sicker from the medication and I had to stop working, closed up shop, couldn't take care of my toddler, was in a brain fog, couldn't get out of bed, sleeping 10 to 12 hours a night, body aches, hair falling out, nails breaking, like it was just. I was a mess. And I kept thinking, david, like is this my life? Like how can this be my life?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So I just, I just want people that are listening right now to really understand that life happens, but it doesn't mean it's the end of your life because you're still living, Even though in that moment I thought I was existing and not living Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really powerful.
Speaker 2:Thank you. And from that it was a two and a half year journey of figuring out what doctors to go to, doctors telling me I was fine, my blood work was fine with the medication, but I was having heart palpitations, anxiety attacks, wasn't sleeping, I was miserable. And then I figured out you know what, if it's meant to be, it's up to me. And I figured out my nutrition for my autoimmune disease, figured out my workouts and exercise for my autoimmune disease, figured out my mindset being a model of positive change, going from negative imagery to positive imagery and really just finding accountability, partners and mentors that had what I wanted, that are like one or two, three steps ahead of where I want to be personally and professionally. And my whole life changed. And because of that, people started asking what I was doing. I always thought I'd go back to marketing and advertising and sales, because that's what I knew and that's what I loved.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But I started helping people, neighbors, friends just feel better. Everyone's exhausted, right, everyone's exhausted Things going on with you're a mom, you're a dad, you're a working mom, working dad, you're working, you're, whatever it is sister, brother, life happens, and so I figured out a simple way, through nutrition, fitness and mindset, with accountability, to help change the trajectory of people's lives to be the best versions of themselves.
Speaker 2:And that's what I've been doing for the past 12 years with my coaching business and I bring in my marketing and my advertising knowledge and business background to be able to grow my business but yet still stay heart-centered, because it's my heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love the way you've been able to tie it all in. That's not easy to do, especially when you go out on your own, to be able to take what you're really interested in and passionate about and then also tie it into your previous work experience. Right, that's not an easy blend. Something I'm struggling with and I think a lot of people that go out on their own is trying to figure out how do I match, how do I marry these all these together. So I love that it kind of came together for you.
Speaker 1:It took obviously some some negative to get there and some, you know, trial and error and turbulence and, um, you know, I'm sure, a lot of dark kind of dark periods, but I I applaud you for like coming out of it, using it, you know, kind of as fuel to like, like you said, figure it out and take steps. And I'm sure there was a lot of like experimentation with, especially with like foods and recipes and like different types of eating and like what was helping and what wasn't. So, yeah, that's really, it's really fascinating. I wonder what? What do you think was the biggest? You're talking about that mindset shift from negative to positive imagery? Was that something that you read about that, you studied when did that, I guess, come from and what steps did you take or what tools did you use to make that shift?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. That's a great question. So every great coach has a coach, and so I had a life coach who became one of my best friends. That's not normal, that's just what happened because, bonded, or my life coach knew she knows more about me and my inner life and secrets than anybody in my whole life. Right, because in order to overcome something, you got to dig in, you got to do the work. So I worked with a life coach and we did. You know, we, we work and this is how I coach.
Speaker 2:Also, that how we feel now is because we are a product of our childhood. So whatever happened in our childhood is what is appearing and occurring and happening in the now. But we get to redefine our story, refine, redefine, however you look at that, reframe our story now so our past doesn't have to be our present, right? So, for example, negative imagery something happened in childhood. Maybe there was trauma, maybe there was abuse, maybe there was just neglect, maybe there's so many different things that it could be right Just giving examples here.
Speaker 2:That's a negative image that you have in your mind. And then there's triggers happen in your life now as an adult that bring up the past. So in order to overcome that and be positive and have a happy image. We get to do the work in between in order to overcome the obstacles and the negativity and, slowly but surely, over time, when you do the work and you do the exercises and you cry your brains out, when you, you know, feel your deepest, darkest moments, like you said, david, that's when. That's when you and yes, I do have a dog and, yes, super friendly, I promise we knew the dog.
Speaker 1:We knew the dog was coming.
Speaker 2:He's just the cutie pie greeting everybody at the door. So once we have that negative imagery, we know the triggers and we do the work to overcome it, then triggers become non-triggers. They don't trigger you because you have a image. So, for example, let me give an example so listeners can understand what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:So, for example, maybe someone growing up, when you were a child, you were never allowed to speak. Everyone talked over you, but there was one person that overpowered everything and really just did the talking for you. So you really had no idea how you felt, what your emotions were. You never had an opinion because you weren't able to talk right, you were just shunned. As an adult, you could be in a corporate meeting and not feel comfortable speaking up your opinions or adding value to the conversation or the project, because you have a fear of someone in the room. That is triggering you and it's the same trigger that you had when you were a child.
Speaker 2:But when you do the work to know that it had nothing to do with you and that it has everything to do with that other person, and then probably having childhood trauma also and not being heard right and having to show their point and make themselves heard as an adult. Once you realize that, then when you're in that meeting, you know that there are other people there and people may have louder voices or softer voices. Your voice matters and you get up and you get to speak and your colleagues value your opinion so that in the value you add to that project or the conversation. So that's how you go from negative imagery to positive imagery. It takes time, right, david, is not overnight work, but it takes time. You can change over time if you choose.
Speaker 1:Did you use methods like my therapist uses, like a tapping method and I know there's different types of like tapping, where you can take, like what you're talking about. You know, negative childhood experiences and through tapping you can kind of lessen their effect on you. Did you use anything like that? Or like did you have other techniques that your life coach worked with you, or was it simply just like talking through them and identifying them?
Speaker 2:It was the latter of what you said.
Speaker 2:I didn't use tapping, it was more talking through and really just getting out is when you voice something and you talk out loud you're able to rid it from your body so energetically. Getting it out allows you to not hold it in, because so many times we're weighed down on our shoulders and it weighs on our head and a lot of times maybe people get migraines. Right, there's, there's a reason why you're getting the migraine from the buildup, from the stress, right, everything just culminates in that state. So it was really just talking things through and speaking my voice, because I never got to or in that situation, right, I was just talking it out and then realizing what happened was not my fault. It wasn't my fault, right, and it's okay as an adult, to speak. It's okay for an, as an adult, to have interactions with other people and voice your opinion and not be afraid of what they're going to speak. It's okay for an, as an adult, to have interactions with other people and voice your opinion and not be afraid of what they're going to say.
Speaker 1:No, I love that Is it. Did you find, excuse me, in your experience where, like the adult triggers with the childhood memories and imagery and you're you're working with your life coach and you're talking through it Did you find that it took? How many times did you need to get triggered to have that situation come up as an adult to where you were able to then not have it affect you? Did you notice a pattern like on the fifth time or the 10th time, or was it one time because you talked about it or was there? It would take years. How long did you feel like the process of talking through it and having it happen? Were you then able to not let it have that effect on you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's a good question as well. I don't know an exact number per se, but I can tell you it took about a year, okay. So what happens is you work through it and you feel good about it when you're being coached on, but then, when you actually have that situation in the moment, in the now, as an adult, it takes a lot of willpower, and I call it gut strength, in order to be able to use the positive imagery and speak up in that moment.
Speaker 2:Right so, and a lot of times it would be like on the tip of the tongue and you want to say something, but it wasn't the right time for you or the right space or the right environment. So it takes time and it's working through that process in order to be okay in those situations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense. And so what you do with your clients, would you say it's kind of an extension of life coaching? It sounds like it's kind of a hybrid right Like you're doing wellness, you're doing mindset, you might be doing some life, maybe career. It seems like it's a kind of a multi-point way. How would you describe your coaching to someone that didn't know?
Speaker 2:what you did? Yeah, absolutely so. It definitely is my unique program. Right? It's my method that I created based on my experiences. So I'm a life coach who helps corporate executives and entrepreneurs be the best version of themselves through nutrition, fitness, mindset and accountability. And then within those, the four pillars of my program, we work in depth in those four pillars.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, okay. And then is your process where you meet with them, kind of identify, like kind of what they have going on, and then you tailor it, or do you kind of have a okay, so you tailor it based on their, like, current experience and needs nutrition.
Speaker 2:Some people need more mindset, some people need more accountability to get things done and follow through, you know, or exercise whatever their specific needs are, and they share with me their goals and what they want to do and accomplish with our time together. And then it's customized based on that right. I customize it. And then there's also a VIP day, so that's a one day intensive, so there's not one-on-one coaching, but there's a strategy call at the beginning of the day and then I create a video at the end of the day and I send them the deliverables within nutrition, fitness, mindset and accountability, based on the strategy session that we had and the outcome they want to achieve.
Speaker 1:Okay, I like the flexibility in those two. On the one-on-ones, typically how long are those engagements?
Speaker 2:They're 45-minute sessions.
Speaker 1:Okay, and then for like three months, six months a year, like how long?
Speaker 2:It's a 12-month commitment for a week, and then you can renew as well, which most clients do, because in 12 weeks we can get through a lot. We really can't 90 days, to your best self, right. But there's a lot of deeper inner work. That happens sometimes, that clients want to dig deeper in, so we continue, but initially it's a 12-week.
Speaker 1:I like that because I think I've seen examples of people who do similar to what you're describing a three-month weekly. So it's pretty regular touch points and I've seen a lot of progress made. But then as soon as the coach falls off, then it's like a slow. I see this kind of slow decline, kind of back to like where they were before Maybe not like all the way back, but it's hard.
Speaker 1:Especially people that need because, like some people like myself, I'm wired to do things for myself internally and externally, but not everybody's like that right. Some people need that external accountability, whether it's a coach or a friend to work out with or whatever. And so I think for those people that's really where I'm glad you offer that extension, because I think people like you said, it just takes longer, especially depending on where your baseline is, like how much work you need, right, like sometimes it's a lot, like you're not close on any of the pillars. Three months is just simply not enough time to get there. So I love the offer and extension because I think a lot of people probably would do and benefit from the extra time.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and I also create toolkits for my clients too. So to that point they want to continue, great, we can continue building that toolkit. But if they want to try after 12 weeks, to go off on their own and use the tools that we created in their toolkit, they're able to do that as well, and then always come back.
Speaker 1:No, I love that. And then I know a lot of your posts and it's on your LinkedIn profile. You talk about your protein recipes. Does that kind of stem from when you were doing the experimentation with the foods to try to figure out how to help yourself feel your best? Does it come from that?
Speaker 2:Absolutely, because I've always been an athlete, but I wasn't feeling my body for an autoimmune disease, so it's very different, and so I learned through nutrition that food is fuel and food is medicine and you can really. You can retrain your metabolism, you can increase your energy. You can do so many things with food. So what I started to do is I love to bake. I'm a phenomenal baker, so I started to just swap out ingredients and just trial and error, like what tasted good, what didn't? How did I feel A lot of it? Go on how I feel right and how my clients feel. So, oh my gosh, my chocolate chip protein cookies are amazing. They're so freaking good.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I gotta start sending care packages out. I'm telling you like they're so good and they're so simple and they're high protein. They're five frees. So I say they're high protein, but they're gluten-free, dairy-free, grain-free, anti-inflammatory-free, refined sugar-free, and those are the five frees that most people whether you have an autoimmune disease or not like really need to be catering their nutrition to, because that's how you feel about it, right, and you need a certain amount of protein throughout the day in order to achieve your goals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think I hired a nutrition coach back in November. I'd gotten COVID for the second time in 15 months and I was really pissed about that. So I was like, all right, I want to make some changes. So I hired him and we worked on it. It was similar to what you're talking about. We kind of tweaked what I was eating and kind of working out and exercising is usually not a problem for me because I'm usually training for some kind of race but just dialing that in and just yeah, for some kind of race, but just dialing that in and just yeah.
Speaker 1:So, but what triggered that? When you mentioned that is, I remember he told me that you can actually consume, if I remember this correctly, one gram of protein for every pound. So, like a lot of times you'll hear like, oh, you only need like 50 or 60 grams of protein, right? Um, and he was like that's not enough for most people, and especially if you're like really active. So he was like you, most people won't get to their weight like in grams of protein per day. But he's like you actually have a much like larger window of protein to consume. And then like the more active you are and the more intense.
Speaker 1:Your training is the closer you need to get to the protein. I thought it was really interesting. So I think it's a little bit of like almost like societal misinformation, where you think, oh, I only need, like this small amount, when in reality, like you said, to feel your best and to fuel yourself best, you really probably need more. You're probably not getting enough.
Speaker 2:Most people don't get enough at all. That's spot on. And people don't understand nutrition and they go to their doctors for nutrition advice, which is the worst thing you can do, because doctors are trained in the medical field, not in the nutrition field, so they have no clue, no idea, and they can't help you. And you're correct about the nutrition as far as the protein grows with the grams of protein. And most people also think that the less you eat, the more you're going to lose weight and the more muscle you're going to get, and that's absolutely incorrect. It's completely false. You need to be eating constantly through the day, right To fill your body so you increase your metabolism and you don't get your glucose to dip, because when your glucose, blood sugar levels dip, that's when you actually create fat. And so you think you're eating less and being healthy, where in fact you just did this hard workout and you didn't eat before and you're not eating after until like three hours, your whole workout. You're not reaping the benefits of it, so you're not gaining anything from it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I eat like every 90 minutes or two hours. It drives my wife crazy. She's like I don't know how can you be hungry? And I'm like, oh, I was hungry after I ate.
Speaker 2:I know I'm already done in three hours. I was at the nail salon the other day and I brought my food with me because I'm like I'm going to have to eat in the middle and if I don't eat then I'm going to crash and it's not worth it, right? And the lady's like man, is that your breakfast? I was like, no, this is my. I don't even know what to call it. It's my snack. I'm wearing a snack. I already had breakfast three hours. She's like what? I'm like, yeah, every three hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've already had two breakfasts. This is my post-second breakfast snack before lunch.
Speaker 2:Yep, I hear you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I'm always planning like four or five whether it's meals or snacks ahead. If we're going to go to the fields for games and stuff, it's like all right. How much food do I need?
Speaker 2:to get myself. I'm like, what size cooler or purse do I need to bring today?
Speaker 1:Right yeah, that's exactly, that's it. Yeah, I love it. I love that. I mean, I love that. Are you familiar with Rich Roll? It sounds like you would really dig on Rich Roll stuff. Do you know who Rich Roll is?
Speaker 2:I do not Tell me more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you should check him out. So he really kind of changed the trajectory of my life a little bit. So he now is a famous podcaster, but about 15, 10 to 15 years ago he was out of shape. He was a lawyer, he was drinking too much, poor diet, and he ended up writing a book about it. So he just one day was trying to walk up his stairs and got out of breath and just had this epiphany. It was like is like I can't live this way, right, and so he completely like overhauled his life. He went completely plant-based and then he ended up doing all of these like ultra endurance, triathlons and and beyond even just a traditional triathlon and all this stuff anyway. So he ended up writing a book and then now has become like a plant-based, you know, thought leader and he's done like 800 episodes of his podcast and speaker and he just completely overhauled his life and he quit drinking and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:But a lot of it is talking about like how food, like what he really experienced is that when he shifted to the plant based eating and not that you have to go plant based, but just in using food as fuel when he shifted to the plant-based eating and not, that you have to go plant-based, but just in using food as fuel when he was really doing these ultra intense training sessions and these races, and just how important it was like that correlation between what he was consuming and when he really started to pay more attention to what he was consuming and just like the effect on the body and, like you said, inflammation and illness and energy like all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, you should, you should check him out. He's easy to find. Uh, he's got at least one book, if not two, and he's got, you know, the big kind of the biggest names you know in podcasts have been on the show. So really interesting guy and interesting story. But it reminds me in talking about just exercise and fuel and food and energy and how it all works together. So you have a book coming, so I want to say one thing about that too.
Speaker 2:It's a really good point that you made, david, and so many people, especially that I work with a lot of corporate executives and entrepreneurs. Like corporate executives, they're typically at their desk all day and they're on the computer, or entrepreneurs are on their phones all day, right, and there's a correlation between your productivity and your exercise and productivity and your nutrition. And then productivity and combined exercise and nutrition, right. And so and I post a lot on LinkedIn about you know movement is medicine and food is food, like what you just said. And so, to that point, the more active you have in the routine work, the more disciplined you are with your nutrition and your fitness, the higher productivity that you're going to have in the workplace, and so there's a direct correlation. That's really important to mention, because a lot of times people think, well, I just work harder. No, you got to work smarter, not harder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, it's the whole. Yeah, focusing on the important task and to make sure you're doing those. You're just not trying to do everything, and it's easier for me and probably for you like working out of the house with the dogs and I have a dog too, so he gets me out of the house a lot, which is nice because you have those built-in walk breaks.
Speaker 1:And then I do a lot of running and training, so the movement part's a little bit easier, but that's because I'm at the house. If I was at the office it would be harder. But still, even when I was working in an office I would still get up and walk the hallways, or I'd go walk out to my car and walk back, or whatever. I just can't sit for those really long stretches.
Speaker 2:I'm taking the elevator, You're going up one floor. Take the stairs. What are you doing? I was known for the one that was like run around the office Literally. I was like the fastest walker from office to office.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it. I was the same way. I didn't like elevators and yeah anyway. So you have a book coming out in about what? Two? A little over two months, two and a half months and is that kind of a culmination of your experience? Kind of just talk about the genesis of the book and kind of how you went through writing it.
Speaker 2:Sure, so thank you for asking. I'm super excited. It's one of those lifetime goals that most people don't accomplish and I'm proud to say that I did accomplish that. My book, exhausted to Energized 90 Days to your Best Self, is available on Amazon November 12th, which is the day after my birthday. So that's super special, yeah, super excited.
Speaker 2:And so basically the book really walks you through exhausted state to hope state, to the work state to energized state. So it's the four phases, just like I have four pillars in my program for coaching, and it really gives live examples. I have stories in there. They're real stories that I experienced and how I overcame my autoimmunity, how I overcame all the other tribulations with exhaustion and my nutrition and my fitness and everything that goes into living life to the fullest and being your best self. And it really gives hope for people that are completely exhausted whether you're burnt out, you have chronic illness, you have pain, wherever you are in your journey that just trust the process. And in my book there are activities called heartwork, for about half, about half of the pages have them and really that is the work that you get to do in order to overcome whatever you're going through, because nothing changes if nothing changes and it really just gives joy and happiness to you and also the people around you, because you affect everybody that you're around but, more importantly, yourself.
Speaker 1:No, I love that. Had you been thinking about it for a while and then you finally did it? Or did you just kind of just say like, okay, I'm writing a book. Okay, so you've been thinking about it for?
Speaker 2:a while? That's a good question too, so I've been thinking about it. It's been in my head for about five years two to five years, the last two years, definitely and then what happened is is now that I'm more active on LinkedIn, I started connecting with a lot of people that had just published books and written books and self-published and worked with coaches and whatnot, and so I always find that that's a sign when you put something out to the universe, it comes back to you, right? So it was my sign to get connected with my coach that helped me, from start to finish, really put my ideas and thoughts into the book and how to organize it, and so it took me about 90 days to write the book from start to finish and then went through editing, which was about another month, month and a half and yeah, then the designer, the layout and so yeah, and then there's all the marketing and sales and promotions and plans and all of that on the back end.
Speaker 2:It's really the full cycle process and if anyone's thinking about it, go for it, because you really have no idea how much it will change your life and how you look at things and really see how much you've done, how much you've accomplished and the impact you've made on it.
Speaker 1:That's funny. I've had people tell me I should write a book and I'm like I don't who would read that? It would be so boring, why would I?
Speaker 2:I don't know if it would be boring. You have to like fill it out, give like a great draft or some idea, concept and cut that for people.
Speaker 1:What did you? So that's a short, I feel like, in my opinion, and I don't know much about the book writing process, but 90 days to write a book seems like a short period of time, so did you have a pretty yeah. So did you have a? I'm assuming you had a very rigid or a pretty strict writing process, like write every day at the same time, or you just time blocked an afternoon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there was a schedule and I blocked off time. But how you do anything is how you do everything in life, and so what happened was I'd have a deadline for my coach, a certain part had to be done so we could review it and stuff, and the deadline was coming up and I had missed the scheduled times. And life happens right. And so I would just sit down and I would just write and I didn't even know how much time went by. I would just write until I was content and until I knew that that was it for the day, and then I'd get everything done by my deadline.
Speaker 2:But it was really more. I am a super disciplined person. I'm not that you have to be disciplined to write a book, but I know if I have a deadline I'm going to deliver, no matter how I'm going to get there. And so, yes, 90 days is a short amount of time, but I knew it was attainable because I have goals of when I wanted it published and when I wanted to have it out to people in the messaging to help them with their lives.
Speaker 1:I love that. What have you enjoyed? I assume you have, because you have the background in marketing, sales and advertising. So have you enjoyed this kind of next phase of starting to promote it and, like you said, the book cover and then doing press for the book? To me I've never done book marketing or book advertising or book PR.
Speaker 2:So it's great because I'm learning a new skill that I put in my toolkit, that I can help someone else sometime next time I do that. And so it is really fun. It's overwhelming because I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:I'll be real.
Speaker 2:I'm a real person. My client tells me my client she's great and she's like Robin, you are just as advertised, even better, like. I am so real. But you get the real deal. There's nothing fake on social media. There's nothing fake when you talk to me. But I'm loving the process because I always trust the process and enjoy the journey, and sometimes I have to take my own advice right Because I'm like, oh my gosh, I can make a deadline or I don't know what to write or this and that. But if you just really sit down and really be with yourself and use the tools you already have in the toolbox, you're amazing. You have all the gifts that you need. And so, yes, I am enjoying the process. It's super fun and I'm just really excited to have that copy in my hand and out to as many people as possible to help change the trajectory of their lives.
Speaker 1:No, I love that. Talk a little bit about your podcast. You've had it, I think, for not quite a year. Is that all kind of tied in, I assume, to the health wellness movement Like?
Speaker 2:it's all.
Speaker 1:R-related yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, my podcast is called the Robin Engelson Podcast and it's about life, similar to what your podcast is, I think, david as well. Right, and so it's related to nutrition, fitness, mindset and accountability my four pillars. I'm going from energized sorry, excuse me, going from exhausted to become energized 90 Days to your Best Self the name of my book and so I interview a lot of different people in different phases of their lives corporate executives, entrepreneurs, nutritionists, fitness coaches, life coaches. So really it's about life and just being the best version of yourself and the tools and action that you need to take in order to get there.
Speaker 1:No, I love that, that's right. Like you said, that's right up my alley and, honestly, when I started this show, which I've been thinking about for years, and the limiting beliefs and fear and putting yourself out there and all that kind of stopped me from doing it. And then, kind of once I started on this you know, linkedin content, journey and you know, kind of moving to doing this full time it seemed like if I was ever going to do it it was going to be now. But yeah, I'm really fascinated with, like our evolution as we go through life, age, mature, you know, like you said, the lived experiences, the ups and downs which will happen to all of us throughout life, and then like how we come out of that, what we learn, and then we start to. I feel like if we're doing it, you know, if we're moving forward, then we're becoming better versions of ourselves through all of that, all of those experiences which we can then help others and it's.
Speaker 1:But when I was was younger, I didn't do that and I felt like I wore a lot of masks and wasn't kind of my true self and you know, I've like somebody, you know, with different parts of family and school and friends, and then in work, like I was kind of always not those versions of myself right. In some ways it almost felt like acting at times because you felt like I felt like I had to do that to fit in or to not get attention or whatever. But then as you get older and my kids are getting older, then you start to realize that that's really exhausting to try to remember who you're supposed to be in each situation. It's like wow, if I could just be me most of the time, that'd be a lot easier.
Speaker 1:In each situation it's like wow if I could just be me most of the time, that'd be a lot easier. I sure would. So that was kind of the point. So I'd love to get your kind of thought on that, with everything you've been through and all of the clients you've worked with and everything like really stepping into kind of that authentic version of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that, david, because one of my mentors says you know, comparison is the thief of joy. So if you're always comparing yourself to others first off, you're never going to be the best version of yourself and you're going to be miserable, you're never going to be happy. So being able to be your authentic self, it takes work, it takes confidence. It takes work, it takes confidence, it takes discipline, it takes everything that you need to be in order to be. If that makes sense, I always say just be with yourself for five minutes. I tell my clients this and my friends Just be with yourself for five minutes, uninterrupted. Be wherever that is in your room, outside, wherever that is. For me it's outside, on my patio. I'm in Florida with a pool and I have a fountain that runs my hot tub and it's so relaxing to me. And it's just five minutes. I don't look at my phone, I sit there and put my dog or just look out in the beautiful earth that I have around me, but that takes work.
Speaker 2:I didn't do that 20 years ago. Right 20 years ago I was comparing myself to this person and that person and how I thought I was going to climb the corporate ladder. And then I could say today well, I should be the CMO, the chief marketing officer, that should be me. But if I say that, then I'm going to be miserable.
Speaker 2:I'm going to feel bad for myself and I'm not going to show up as my authentic self. It could have been me, but it wasn't the path that was for me. And so when you show up as your authentic self, you will attract your tribe. I promise you and here's the thing you don't want to be with the quote popular people. If they're not for you because you're not going to have anything to talk to them about, you're going to be miserable. When you're with them, you're going to feel like you're always. You know someone's showing up, someone for something else. Just be yourself, and you really only need three to five really good people in your life. That's all you need. You don't need a group of 50, although that's fun right, that's fun, and I could probably name 50 people, right, but like, do they really?
Speaker 1:know, me?
Speaker 2:Do I show up as myself with them? Right, so you get to step into your authentic self and always be who you are because you're beautiful. You are placed on this earth to bring your authentic gifts to everybody and you have everything you need to know inside of you. And sometimes we just need someone else to talk to, like a life coach or an executive coach or a therapist, to really bring that shining light out of us so we can shine it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was really well said.
Speaker 1:It's that mirror, right, you need the mirror to reflect it back to you, because we have a hard time seeing it within ourselves. Even things that we know that we're good at or that we have talent in, we still downplay those absolutely in our minds, right? And so, yeah, you need, you need that accountability coach, partner, therapist, whatever to really allow you to see that, and then you really have to then see it and then believe it. So, yeah, no, that was that was really well said. And just this whole conversation like I love your energy, I love I love that you didn't take the diagnosis and the illness like and just let that keep you down. Like you figured out a way and you battled through it and then came out like so much farther ahead. Like I think a lot of people would have just been like, oh well, this is my lot, and like I'll just going to be sick forever, and like I'll just, I'll take the medicines and like I'll just feel bad and like this is it Right.
Speaker 1:And you were like you know, I'm not going to do that, like I'm going to. I'm going to figure it out. Yeah, like I'm not. I think it's amazing, just like mental fortitude and just your energy and drive to do it and then to not stop there and then allow it to help transform other people's lives and give that back. I think it's really fascinating and I think it's great, so I'm super. It's been a weird tech week, so it's actually not surprising that I just did that. Yeah, why not Just slap the microphone?
Speaker 2:around. I got you so energized, david, you didn't know what to do with yourself.
Speaker 1:I know I couldn't control my hands. I just decided to punch my microphone Anyway. So I'm super happy that we met. I love your energy, I love your posts, I love what you're doing. I'm looking forward to coming on your show and I really appreciate your time and insight. Before we go, you can tell people how to find you, whether it's website, linkedin. Obviously, the book coming out it's called Exhausted to Energized. That's on November 12th, but any other way they could reach out if they're interested, for sure.
Speaker 2:And so you can reach me all over social LinkedIn, facebook, instagram, robin Engelson, and I'll spell that R-O-B-Y-N, last name is E-N-G-E-L-S-O-N, and also my website, robinengelsoncom, and definitely get on the waitlist for my book release, and if you want some free protein recipes, let me know, or workouts or whatnot. If you just want to say hi, I would love that too. So just hit me up on the DMs.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Well, thanks so much, Robin. This was great. I really appreciate your time and insight and I really appreciate you coming on. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, David. It's been a pleasure. I'm so happy we met as well and I believe nothing's an accident in life and you attract your tribe. So thank you so much for this opportunity.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, you're welcome.